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Common abrahamic excuses that hold little water

"God gaves us free will, ergo it's pur own fault": Except that the Bible nor the Qu'ran put emphasis on free will. Hell, this excuse is so very recent, that, until a few centuries ago, the idea that God had absolute control over our lives was very popular.

"Its our fault; Adam and Eve's sin created evil, not God!": If you have read Genesis, you'll know this is bullshit (Hell, even Yahweh admits he created evil!). Likewise, at no point is the first sin ever considered a "Pandora's Box" situation.

"God is goodness incarnate! Evil is against his nature!":...have you even read the Bible? Yahweh is also considered to not be goodness incarnate un

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Too many people who don't want gays to get married will yell something like: "Gays are ebil cuz o sodom n gomorrah thats why god destroyed them cuz they were gay'.

No. The book of Genesis never specifically says for what reason they were destroyed. The reason is not specified until Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 16:49-50:

"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good."

In those days, 'abomination' was defined as 'any action that offended God', not 'being gay.' Back then, abomination included eating shellfish, having a disobedient child, and having sex with your wife while she was on her period.

In short, Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for being gay. They were destroyed for being complete assholes.

~Tsubodai1 Apr 30, 2013 New member

Another note with the same message: Genesis 19, 4-5. (NIV)

"Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom - both young and old - surrounded the house. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them"".

The men who had come to lot were angels who came to deliver a warning. Now, it seems to me quite logical that the cities would have been destroyed because the arrival of guests CAUSED THE SWIFT FORMATION OF A RAPE MOB!!! That's my read on it.

~Aonon May 1, 2013

Of course, Lot's proposed solution to this rape mob was to offer his daughters to be raped INSTEAD of the angels, so its kind of a fucked up story no matter which way you slice it. :\

~IronBloodAika Apr 19, 2012

This seems a pretty neutral post, why is it on so many atheist groups?

~Aonon Apr 20, 2012

Not sure, but I'm not complaining about free views. ^^

~IronBloodAika Apr 20, 2012

Yeah, but it just seems to be out of place. XP XD

~ilikecustard Mar 24, 2012

Arrogant, prideful douchebags who dont do anything to help those less well off? That sounds a lot like a significant portion of the christian population to me.

~Greatkingrat88 Mar 22, 2012

Eeeyup, god doesn'tlike it when people have the freedom to be arrogant, prideful or douchey.

I don't like it when people behave that way, but they are free to do so. So god just hates it when people practice free will?

~Spazzboy911 Apr 12, 2012

We have the will to either obey God or rebel against him. It's made clear that everyone has the willing choice to do as they please. If you so chose to rebel against God, it is a willful act of your choice. Yes, I am talking a bit in circles, but i can't figure any other way to put it other than God gave us free will and they chose to rebel, knowing what they were doing. EVERYONE has the freedom to be arrogant, prideful, sinful, everything! He smote those who rebelled against Him, not because they has freedom, but what they used their freedom to do. He hates it when people practice freewill the *wrong* way.

~Greatkingrat88 Apr 13, 2012

When you make such an assertion, you are required to provide evidence. Want me to bow to your god? Prove that he, and not the thousands other available, is the one true god.

Now, plenty of people "rebel" against god these days, in numbers far greater, yet the world at large appears unsmoten. People misuese their freedom every day. Has he lost his power, or does he simply not care?

~Spazzboy911 Apr 14, 2012

I don't believe in a God that can be proven, so that is a strawman argument. Your judging God on your own terms, which is meaningless. As far as being being punished for our rebellious nature, called sin, we don't live in the old covenant anymore. The law of the old covenant was fulfilled by the begotten son of God, who was God, and now our salvation is in him, which means in the new covenant God doesn't smite people anymore. Put away your strawmen and your arrogance and read a bible. Your words are not new, for even Jesus was doubted in his own time just as he is today, so nothing is new under the sun.

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